Jessica Talisman
CEO and Founder
The Ontology Pipeline
Tony Seale
Founder
The Knowledge Graph Guys
Episode Overview:
Learn why an organization’s ontology is the most valuable and most overlooked asset in any AI strategy. Jessica Talisman, CEO and Founder of The Ontology Pipeline, and Tony Seale, Founder of The Knowledge Graph Guys, break down what it actually takes to build trusted AI, covering everything from semantic layers and knowledge graphs to why provenance is non-negotiable. They explain how organizations can start building their knowledge infrastructure for AI, and make the case for why their ontology is their most defensible competitive asset.
Key Moments:
Key Quotes:
How Semantic Layers and Ontologies Create Trusted AI“If you let somebody else take your ontology, learn the essence of what it is that you know that's out of distribution with the rest of the world, you've just given them everything valuable about your company.”
Tony Seale
How Semantic Layers and Ontologies Create Trusted AI“The accuracy of the information you receive is reliant upon the lineage or the provenance of the information received from an LLM. It's so important."
Jessica Talisman
How Semantic Layers and Ontologies Create Trusted AI“As a business leader, you need to be looking below the surface to the data infrastructure. The key trick to do right now is to turn the power of the models that we've got back upon your own internal infrastructure to build out these rich ontologies and to connect your information.”
Tony Seale
How Semantic Layers and Ontologies Create Trusted AI"Your ontology is like your thumbprint, your digital thumbprint for your organization. It's unique to each organization, and how you define things may not be the same as an LLM might define something."
Jessica Talisman
Mentions:
- The Ontology Pipeline® - A Semantic Knowledge Management Framework | Jessica Talisman
- How the Ontology Pipeline Powers Semantic Knowledge Systems | Jessica Talisman
- Why Early Knowledge Graph Adopters Will Win the AI Race | The Knowledge Graph Guys
- Spec-First Development: Why LLMs Thrive on Structure, Not Vibes | The Knowledge Graph Guys
- The Knowledge Graph Academy
Guest Bios:
Tony Seale
For over a decade, Tony has been passionate about linking data. His creative vision for integrating Large Language Models and Knowledge Graphs within large organisations has gained widespread attention, particularly through his popular weekly LinkedIn posts, earning him the reputation of ‘The Knowledge Graph Guy.’
Today, as the founder of The Knowledge Graph Guys, Tony is dedicated to helping organisations harness the power of their data. His consultancy develops cutting-edge Knowledge Graphs that fuel innovation and growth in the rapidly evolving Age of AI.
Jessica Talisman
Jessica Talisman has dedicated her 25-year career to exploring the dynamics of information and knowledge—how it flows across systems, evolves through context, and powers intelligent technologies. Her work spans historical research, educational frameworks, and enterprise-scale applications of artificial intelligence.
Previously a Senior Information Architect at Adobe, Jessica led the development of semantic knowledge graphs to enrich content and contextual understanding. She now serves as CEO and Founder of Ontology Pipeline, where she leads efforts to bridge the worlds of library science and data management - building robust, scalable knowledge systems for the AI era.
Music: “The Clermont” by Flash Fluharty
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